DW - "The Rebel Flesh" Reaction Post
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annissamazingOk, now that I've stopped flailing over my two favorite things being combined, I can post an actual reaction.
This might be extremely obvious now, but, to me, Muse is like Doctor Who, but for my car. I adore that band and I listen to them daily. I see them in concert whenever I can. I nearly bought plane tickets to Dallas when there was a chance that would be their only US concert date. They're on my list of people I hope I never meet because you should never meet your heroes.
So, when I heard one of their songs on Doctor Who, my brain nearly hemorrhaged. I'm waiting to see how many FB friends I lose over my incoherent text shouting. I posted the previous LJ entry here immediately and at the commercial break, I ran upstairs to shout it at my husband as well. I imagine when![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
flydye8 sees this, she'll be glad she was unable to meet me for our regular chat watch, because I was completely out of it for at least 10 minutes. I might be insane.
When I finally calmed down enough to finish watching the show, I was a little lost. I think I followed it ok, though.
On the whole, I liked it. It was predictable, but enjoyable. I like the living flesh idea. I wonder if this flesh is a precursor to the flesh that was used at the hospital on New Earth.
I felt some reactions weren't believable. In theory, the flesh should have behaved exactly like their human counterparts, so I don't know why human-Cleaves got all murderous when flesh-Cleaves went the peaceful route. Also, I don't like that flesh-Jennifer's personality shifted so suddenly and drastically when it became clear that they were going to fight. She went from a scared bunny rabbit to happily evil.
Shifting gears, does Rory really need a woman to protect in order to feel manly? Would he actually leave his wife, a woman he guarded for two thousand years, to chase after a newly-formed woman who batted her eyelids at him? Why were they holding hands the whole time? Why did Amy just stand there and watch? This is the first time I've disliked Rory.
On the plus side, at least he didn't die in this episode. I mean, I know it's a two-parter, but he went a whole 60 minutes without kicking the bucket yet again. Give the man a medal.
On the negative side, I'll need to wait two weeks to find out how he kicks it in the next part. I'm guessing acid.
This might be extremely obvious now, but, to me, Muse is like Doctor Who, but for my car. I adore that band and I listen to them daily. I see them in concert whenever I can. I nearly bought plane tickets to Dallas when there was a chance that would be their only US concert date. They're on my list of people I hope I never meet because you should never meet your heroes.
So, when I heard one of their songs on Doctor Who, my brain nearly hemorrhaged. I'm waiting to see how many FB friends I lose over my incoherent text shouting. I posted the previous LJ entry here immediately and at the commercial break, I ran upstairs to shout it at my husband as well. I imagine when
flydye8 sees this, she'll be glad she was unable to meet me for our regular chat watch, because I was completely out of it for at least 10 minutes. I might be insane.When I finally calmed down enough to finish watching the show, I was a little lost. I think I followed it ok, though.
On the whole, I liked it. It was predictable, but enjoyable. I like the living flesh idea. I wonder if this flesh is a precursor to the flesh that was used at the hospital on New Earth.
I felt some reactions weren't believable. In theory, the flesh should have behaved exactly like their human counterparts, so I don't know why human-Cleaves got all murderous when flesh-Cleaves went the peaceful route. Also, I don't like that flesh-Jennifer's personality shifted so suddenly and drastically when it became clear that they were going to fight. She went from a scared bunny rabbit to happily evil.
Shifting gears, does Rory really need a woman to protect in order to feel manly? Would he actually leave his wife, a woman he guarded for two thousand years, to chase after a newly-formed woman who batted her eyelids at him? Why were they holding hands the whole time? Why did Amy just stand there and watch? This is the first time I've disliked Rory.
On the plus side, at least he didn't die in this episode. I mean, I know it's a two-parter, but he went a whole 60 minutes without kicking the bucket yet again. Give the man a medal.
On the negative side, I'll need to wait two weeks to find out how he kicks it in the next part. I'm guessing acid.
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Date: 2011-05-22 04:07 am (UTC)This I can't agree more on. The internet makes it hard not to "meet" people, at least virtually, that you have admired either in roles they stared in or music they've written. It's heartbreaking if they don't turn out they you do, ie pedastal.
As for the new episode, at least I have two weeks to watch it! Doesn't sound like it was very eventful and I'm not too pleased with the OOC Rory you mentioned. I also saw a screencap that reference Rory dying all the time. So, is the show finally acknowledging the problem?
Probably, just as River needs the Doctor be a woman or Amy needs Rory to keep herself inline. Basically, I wouldn't be surprised after hearing some of the things Moffat has said.
This is the first time I'm waiting for others to say something before watching the episode and it'll give me a good indication of what I'll be looking to rant about next. At least I have two weeks! :)
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Date: 2011-05-22 05:19 am (UTC)There are good possibilities for next week, but they'll need to exercise all of them. And I will not be surprised at all if Rory "fails to die" again. I mean, the only episode he's failed to fail to die (double negative: does that mean he's dead? I have a funny feeling I'm asking this as a serious question...) in this season was the first episode, but that was a two-parter too. And oh! Maybe he did. At the end of that ep he was down in the not-TARDIS with River and the Silents were about to get him. Or maybe they did and we FORGOT when the camera panned away.
Hmm. Just thought of that, and I like it. I'm totally filing it with my other off-the-wall theories for the season. )And while I'm at it I'm going to file me under "easily distracted".)
I didn't dislike Rory in this, personally. I think Rory's behavior is a little like Rose's at times: he picks up strays because he's massively compassionate. It's one of the ways in which he's actually distinctive. Rose wore her heart on her sleeve, and you could always tell who she was coming back to, but Rory's a bit less certain about a lot of things and significantly less obvious in his motivations. I keep finding myself thinking of him as a slightly older, wiser Mickey (or Martha--or maybe Mickey and Martha's love child!), and then I catch myself because he's not like that at all. There's something going on in Rory's head--like two thousand years of plastic memories--that we don't know about. I think that there's going to be quite a bit under the puppy-dog look, the self-doubt, and the jealousy. Or at least I certainly hope so.
Sorry, comment turned into a mini-post. :)
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Date: 2011-05-22 05:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-22 09:13 am (UTC)Because the humans think of the gangers as dangerous monsters and not really people, whereas the gangers are completely aware that their counterparts ARE people.
As for Jenny's shift--I think we'll see more on that. But the scaredness was likely an act to elicit Rory's protector instincts.
And as for Rory--he's a nurse, though he didn't say it this time. Helping people is his nature. He protected Amy when she was helpless and mostly dead in a box, but currently she's alive, aware, and with the Doctor, and it would be pretty patronizing of him to think that she needs his protection all the time, wouldn't it? He went to the person who needed him most (or seemed to), not the one he loved the most.
Furthermore, he's been in this exact situation himself when he realized he was living plastic and just a copy of the real Rory. and he remembers it. Of course he'd have a lot of empathy for the gangers, and see them as real people. He's been there. For 2000 years, which is longer than he's been human.
And I think Amy just stood there and watched because she understand that Rory was being protective, not romantic, towards Jennifer.
I hate cliffhangers, so I won't be able to really decide if I like the ep until I see the rest...
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Date: 2011-05-23 11:14 pm (UTC)